The Alternative Vote Explained

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39 Comments on "The Alternative Vote Explained"

  1. Elliott Collins | December 16, 2015 at 9:29 pm | Reply

    The slurring in this video is amazing. He’s gotten so much clearer.

    • I was thinking the same thing. So mumbly. Compared to his current videos,
      he sounds almost drunk in this one. It’s always interesting to see how
      YouTubers improve over the years.

    • +Elliott Collins He speeds up the audio in his newer video, that is the
      only difference. You can listen to his podcast hello internet to see that
      this is the case.

    • Elliott Collins | January 14, 2016 at 7:57 pm | Reply

      +Jakugen Yeah, but he also just enunciates more clearly now. Every YouTuber
      develops “a voice” over the years.

  2. I can tell this isn’t a perfect method, but it certainly seems a lot better
    than the current “one candidate only” option. If anything, it should give
    us the illusion feeling that our vote has greater importance, because it
    still mattered even if the one guy we voted for didn’t win. Hope the EU
    adopts alternative voting as well someday.

    • The EU doesn’t mandate any voting system: it’s up to its constituent
      countries to choose whichever they please.

  3. I wish the U.S. could adopt a system like this…

    • MusketWalrus | May 1, 2016 at 5:50 pm | Reply

      +combogalis Well, less popular, and more populist.

    • MusketWalrus | May 1, 2016 at 5:51 pm | Reply

      +R3D24 R. By saying that you assume that the middle ground is always
      automatically the best. Sometimes as a political leader you have to be
      decisive.

    • JugglerBean | May 8, 2016 at 12:13 pm | Reply

      +Stephen H Imagine the logistics for counting and monitoring alternative
      votes. This should be adopted by smaller democracies now though.

    • Michael Smith | July 19, 2016 at 4:31 am | Reply

      middle ground does not preclude decisiveness.

  4. Daniel Walton | March 6, 2016 at 5:30 am | Reply

    I desperately need this in America, I hate strategic voting for the lesser
    of the two evils.

    • Baran Hekimoglu | June 26, 2016 at 3:10 pm | Reply

      +Jeehoo Ahn I’m guessing you wrote this with a tinfoil hat on your head?

    • Lewmas Fain | July 6, 2016 at 8:36 pm | Reply

      Trump and Hillary are in a boat. The boat sinks. Who is saved?

      America.

    • Who sunk the boat?

      Bernie Sanders

    • oz has only just had an election and i really like our system of preference
      voting (that is what we call alternate voting) in our lower house
      (equivalent to the US congress) out of 149 seats most went to two parties
      but there are 5 seats going to independent MPs only problem is it can take
      days to get the final results with all the preferences

      as a side note gerrymandering is illegal here and electorate boundaries are
      drawn up by the australian electoral commission and just to prove a point
      in 2007 election our sitting PM lost his seat due to the boundary changes!

  5. Eruntien killbane | March 24, 2016 at 12:00 pm | Reply

    This is what wee do in Australia and it works well in my opinion

  6. Yukino Takada 雪乃 鷹だ | May 1, 2016 at 10:57 pm | Reply

    I got here because youtube reccomend this video and tag it as #Animal
    its not wrong but kinda misleading =,=

  7. I would love to have a system like this in Mexico

  8. Squirrels voting for Owls? Preposterous!

  9. Parv Mahajan | June 5, 2016 at 6:53 pm | Reply

    what if party a voters were split between their 2nd choice

  10. KasabianFan44 | June 22, 2016 at 2:49 pm | Reply

    1:59 do those votes always go to only one candidate? It seems a bit
    unfair…

    • Robin Clower | June 23, 2016 at 12:24 am | Reply

      No, he was simplifying it to make it easier to explain. Each person’s vote
      would go to who they rated second. But take American political parties for
      instance. Most libertarians (after their candidate didn’t receive enough
      votes) would prefer to vote Republican instead, so the vast majority of
      libertarian votes would go republican. Sure, there are libertarians who
      would prefer to see their votes go to democrats, but the majority would be
      assigned to republicans.

    • KasabianFan44 | June 23, 2016 at 10:50 am | Reply

      +Robin Clower Great I get it now, thanks for the explanation 🙂

  11. KingJaredoftheLand | June 24, 2016 at 10:12 pm | Reply

    Like that a wallaby was the one to suggest Alternative Vote.. little nod to
    Australia’s preferential voting system.

  12. This is a 5 year old video. My country just held a presidential election
    with 9 candidates. 6 of these candidates never even stood a chance and it
    was well known before the elections. 19% of the counted votes went to them.
    That means that just under a fifth of the votes were completely useless.
    People wasting their votes on people known to not get elected. The
    difference between the elected president and runner up was less than 8%.
    Together the two got just under 67% of the votes. The one in 3rd place then
    got 15% of the votes. So in my opinion, when the two front runners were
    obviously going to be competing against each other, voting for anyone else
    than those two was a wasted vote. In other words, 33% of the votes are
    trash. Imagine if these 33% would have to choose between the two main
    runners.. or if it were the Alternative Vote system. Results could’ve been
    completely different and in my opinion, more accurate.

  13. Everyone: “Wow Both Trump and Hillary suck…”
    Me: “Have you considered voting independent?”
    Everyone: “It would be a wasted vote, he/she wouldn’t win”

    If we used this voting system we could effectively #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

    • +asaeampan I would say that total reform is unlikely now, but there are
      things that are steps in the right direction!

      Take for example the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. It has been
      ratified by 10 states + D.C.; it states that whomever wins the popular vote
      of the general Presidential election, all the Electoral College votes of
      the states that agreed would go to the winner. It’s not perfect, but it’s
      certainly a step in the right direction!

      Also, before I said that some people in their counties have implemented
      IRV. I forgot that some of those counties included the cities of San
      Francisco, Minneapolis, Pierce County (Washington; includes the city of
      Tacoma), Takoma Park (Maryland; also allows 16 & 17 yo to vote in municipal
      elections), Oakland (California), Hendersonville (North Carolina), Aspen
      (Colorado; although they returned to a traditional runoff voting system),
      Memphis, Sarasota (Florida; although it has not been implemented yet),
      Santa Fe, and a few other places.

      There is hope, just not that much of it. Baby steps I guess, right?

    • +Junedude433 If a popular vote system could actually be put in that’d
      prevent what is currently wrong with the US system

    • Julian Cowpurse | July 14, 2016 at 7:43 pm | Reply

      A waste of your vote to vote for someone you actually like, yeah sure.
      Voting for the lesser of 2 evils, that’s wasting your vote.

    • Julian Cowpurse | July 15, 2016 at 12:12 pm | Reply

      +asaeampan
      If you don’t like either candidate, then you waste your vote by voting for
      someone you don’t like. Democracy is about voting for the person that best
      represents your interests, not for the lesser evil.

  14. The Alternative Vote seems to work best under a republic. What the
    parliamentary system? Same?

  15. 68% of the voters voted against this as opposed to first past the post in
    the 2011 UK referendum.

    I am going to say that if you prefer first past the past over this you are
    an idiot and I will debunk every argument brought in that favours first
    past the post.

    • The problem with this system is people number there candidates 1,2,3 by who
      they like the most and who they like the least. If a candidate runs and
      barley says anything just smiles, hugs babies, and is nice to everyone most
      people wont know what he stands for at all but they will put him down for 2
      and 3. No one will win the 1st ballot with many parties in the race, so by
      default someone who stands for nothing but sounds ok will always end up
      winning. People will make their choice for 1 that will be the person they
      cared about and actually understand their policies but for 2 and 3 they
      will just put whoever they thought was nice even if they didnt research
      them. I like the idea of this system but it will always put in office
      people who no but really knows about but acted mature and nice campaigning.
      The best way to win this system is be nice and stand for nothing.

  16. YES, and then it wouldnt be a vote of who’s worse out of hilary clinton and
    the donald.

  17. uhm, world? do this. now.
    also Lojban, do that too.
    And ask finland how to handle taxes and gun laws.

  18. The problem with this system is people number there candidates 1,2,3 by who
    they like the most and who they like the least. If a candidate runs and
    barley says anything just smiles, hugs babies, and is nice to everyone most
    people wont know what he stands for at all but they will put him down for 2
    and 3. No one will win the 1st ballot with many parties in the race, so by
    default someone who stands for nothing but sounds ok will always end up
    winning. People will make their choice for 1 that will be the person they
    cared about and actually understand their policies but for 2 and 3 they
    will just put whoever they thought was nice even if they didnt research
    them. I like the idea of this system but it will always put in office
    people who no but really knows about but acted mature and nice campaigning.
    The best way to win this system is be nice and stand for nothing.

  19. williamthescot | July 18, 2016 at 11:39 pm | Reply

    No what’s destroying the system is Gorilla and his unworkable economic
    policies!

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